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Guide to Turtle Accounts in Game of War – Research (Part 2)

Guide to Research for Turtle Accounts

In part 1 of this guide, we introduced the concept of a turtle, and put forth a little argument as to why it can be fun to build and play in a turtle account when your kingdom gets around to playing in the Kingdom vs Kingdom Kill Events.

One of the guiding principles in designing a turtle is to make your account as ‘strong’ as is possible, whilst minimizing power gain. All things being equal, a turtle at 30M with lots of UNNECESSARY research, and with weaker troops, will not be as effectively able to take a T4 hit when compared to one that has put the effort in all the right places, and minimized unnecessary power gain.

“The essence of strategy is choosing what not to do.” – Michael Porter

The guiding principle of this article is that to be strategic in your build, you have to make deliberate decisions about what you are are NOT going to do. This article will discuss a number of decisions you need to make, including stronghold level, research level, and regular vs strategic troops etc. You need to make conscious decisions, and this article will try and provide some evidence upon which you can base your decisions.

Power

Total power is made up of Base power (Building power / Research power / Quests power / Hero power) and then added on top of that is Troop power and Trap power. A quick word on Quests power: these are the ‘Empire quests’ that you have at the top of your Quests tab for upgrading buildings or completing researches etc. This only ever goes up, and you can’t give it back. You need to make a decision as to which of these quests to complete, if any. They give Hero XP, resources and power when completed, but you need to make a decision whether the Hero XP and resources are worthwhile for you, or whether you can forgo them to keep your power lower. By the time you get to around Sh20-21, the Quests can account for around 4M power, but it is power that does not really make your account any ‘stronger’. Some people hold off on completing all their quests until around sh17-19, because by that point their Gymnos has good XP boosts, and can almost double the amount of Hero XP you get for completing them, and can be even more lucrative if you complete them in the Coliseum.

If you have waited until Gymnos 17-19, you can then still be very selective about which quests you complete and which ones you don’t. Some quests give 10-20 times as much hero XP as power gain. Some give 2-5 times as much power gain as Hero XP points. Most people considering doing the quests at Gymnos level 18 are intensely interested in the Hero XP points to get from hero level 46-48 all the way to 50.

Quests – useful and not so useful

Quests - good Quests - bad

My rule of thumb is that I will not complete a quest unless it has at least 5-10 times as much hero XP as power gain. If you are hero level 48, you still need almost 300M hero XP to get to level 50. Completing quests with equal Hero XP and power gain might get you around 2-3 Million Hero XP, but it will also add a 2-3M power that is effectively ‘useless’. So, you end up with 297M Hero XP still left over to get to hero level 50, but you have wasted 2-3M power that could have been ‘spent’ on more productive research or troops or buildings (eg hospitals).  The absolute purist turtles will not open a SINGLE Empire Quest so that they have no additional ‘useless’ quest power.

Research decisions:

Right now, we are going to focus on the research component of your turtle build, by describing the progression of research you should consider, and the tradeoff decisions that should factor into your design. The reason we are discussing research first, is that research should always be the core of your build. It is non-destructible power that can’t be taken away from you. And it makes your troops and traps stronger, even if your hero tree is set to economics and your hero is wearing research gear instead of battle gear. Combat research is your foundation. Without the research, your troops and traps will simply be wasted resources.

For the sake of this guide, it is assumed that you are starting from scratch, rather than being in the middle of a build. As such, we suggest that you consider early a decision on doing the research for either regular OR strategic troops, but not BOTH. A much more detailed rationale for this is outlined in part 5 of this guide, but for now, please just consider making on a decision on one OR the other.

The research for strategic troops to maximum for Academy 18 puts on 5.7M power, whilst the equivalent research maxed for Academy 18 for regular troops is 3.97M power.

Table 1: Comparison of power gain of regular vs strategic troop health research

Level Regular Troop Health Power gain Strategic Troop Health Power gain Difference
1 500 500 0.0%
2 1250 1300 4.0%
3 3125 3400 8.8%
4 7812 8850 13.3%
5 19525 23000 17.8%
6 48825 60000 22.9%
7 122025 156000 27.8%
8 305060 405560 32.9%
9 752650 1055000 40.2%
10 1906625 2745000 44.0%

The further you go down the research tree, the larger the difference between regular and strategic troops gets when looking at power gain. At Academy 20, the completed combat troop research adds 11.26M power, whilst maxed strategic combat research for academy 20 adds 16.3M research power. sh18 min reg research

If you have made a decision to go with strategic troops ONLY, then the minimum set of regular combat researches required to unlock up to strat T3 are Inf / Ran / Cav attack level 1, Inf defence 3, ranged attack 2, cav attack 2, then the regular troops themselves, being swordsmen, slingers, outriders, hoplites, skirmish archers, light cavalry, armored pikemen, guardians, and companion cavalry.

You do not have to unlock any siege troops or do any siege research if all you want is strategic troops. In total, this only adds 338k power, of which 270k is unlocking regular T3 troops (pikemen etc) to allow unlocking of phlangites, stalkers and lancers.

 

For the purposes of this guide, we are approaching it as if you have made the decision that 1.7M incremental research power at academy 18 (3.97M vs 5.7M), and 5M incremental research power (11.26M vs 15.3M) at academy 20 is not worth it to max strategic troop research instead of regular troop research. As such, priority 1 is regular research, with the option of adding strategic research as priority 4. This is a controversial topic, and one that not everyone will agree with, but for the purposes of this article, that is how we are approaching it. Suck it up, princess.

Variant 1:

Stronghold level 18

Academy 18

Hospitals: 200-600k bedssh18 reg combat troop health

70k regular t3 traps, 5k t2 traps (meat shield)

 

Research:

Priority 1:

Regular Troop health 6

Regular Troop defense 6

Regular Trap attack 7-9

Regular Trap defense 7-8

 

Troop health and troop defense apply to all 4 regular troop types. They are the most important researches you can do as a turtle. They only unlock at academy 16, but from then on you should prioritise them over and above any other troop researches. By the time you get to Academy level 16, you will likely have already started doing the infantry / ranged / cavalry / siege attack and defense researches. They are at the top of the tree, whilst Troop Health and Troop Defense are down the bottom, below Siege. MZ is conditioning you to put the effort into the individual troop attack / defense. Once you unlock academy 16, you should prioritise troop health / troop defense. Then quickly move to Academy 18, so that you can get troop health and troop defense up to level 6. By completing level 6 Troop Health, you get a cumulativsh18 reg combat maxede 31% health boost across all 4 regular troop types for 97k power. And an equivalent boost for troop defense when completed to level 6 at Academy 18.  Trap defense is a controversial research, in that if you end up with a T3 troop army and T2-3 traps, then trap defense is helpful.  IF you end up with T3 traps and a good army of T1-2 troops in front of it, then you never lose a T3 trap, so trap defense research is pretty much wasted.

 

Priority 2 – Individual regular troop research:

Regular Inf / Ran / Cav defense 7-8

Regular Inf / Ran / Cav attack 7-9

And then you can do the 5,6,7,8 individual troop attack and defense researches. Note that the research can go to level 9 for individual troop attack if you want to max your combat research for your level, whilst defense can only go to 8. We are deliberately excluding siege research for now, as will be discussed later.

 

Priority 3:

Hero tree trap attack 7-8

Hero tree trap defense 7-8 (if having T3 traps and T3 troops.  If T3 traps and a large number of T1-2 troops, then trap defense research is mostly wasted)

 

For the majority of turtle accounts designed to take solo hits, traps are an important part of the design process. Hero tree research for traps is relatively easy to unlock, and can provide additional support for both regular and strategic traps, as long as your hero is at home when attacked, which it ALWAYS should be.

 

Priority 4:

Strategic troop health 7sh18 strat health

Strategic troop defense 6

Strategic Inf / rang / Cav attack 9

Strategic inf / rang / Cav defense 8

As a reminder, this guide assumes that the build is prioritising regular combat research over strategic combat research.  If you really want to do both sets of researches, this is where you can get to at Academy 18.

There is a slight anomaly in that you can get your strategic troop health to level 7 at Academy 18, but only regular troop health level 6. Some people choose to exploit this, and only focus their build on strat troops. There will be a lot more discussion later on strat troops in a turtle build in a future guide.

 

 

Variant 2:

Stronghold 20-21

Academy 20

Hospital beds 280-600k

 

Priority 1:

Regular Troop health 8-9Academy 19 combat regular

Regular Troop defense 8-9

Regular Trap defense 8-9

Regular Trap attack 8-10

 

Academy 19 unlocks up to troop health 8 and troop defense 8. At level 8, your cumulative health boost is 66%, at the cost of 658k power. Taking it to 9 at Academy level 20 results in an additional 25% health boost for an increase of 1M power. It is important to point out that this 25% is additive, not multiplicative. If you are at 400% troop health, completing level 9 takes you to 425%, not 500%. As such, you get diminishing relative returns as you go further in your research.

 

Priority 2 – Individual regular troop research:

Inf / Ran / Cav defense 8-9

Inf / Ran / Cav attack 8-10

Academy 20 combat regular

Again, you can get your individual troop attack research to one level higher than troop defense research, in this case to level 10 at academy 20. The level 10 individual troop attach researches require the level 9 individual troop defense to be completed, so you have to have ranged defense 9 unlocked to allow ranged attack 10. Each of these level 10s take 150 days before boosts and alliance helps, so end up requiring around 50 days worth of speed-ups to complete (depending upon your research gear) for 1.143M power each. All 3 level 10 attacks add at least 3.4M power for 40% incremental individual troop attack. Clearly diminishing returns compared to just over 1M power for all 3 level 9s, which gives you an incremental 25% troop attack.

 

The reason I have left this as 8-9 on defense and 8-10 on attack is to allow you to make a conscious decision on whether the power gain is worth it in terms of the effectiveness of your overall troops. In future updates, we will test these builds with identical T3 attacks to see where the sweet spot is. Until then, you need to make a decision on how far you will push on research, given the resources and speedups available to you.

 

Priority 3:Hero tree trap

Hero tree trap attack 8-10

Hero tree trap defense 8-9 (if having T3 traps and T3 troops.  If T3 traps and a large number of T1-2 troops, then trap defense research is mostly wasted)

 

Priority 4:

Strategic troop health 8-9

Strategic troop defense 8-9

Strategic inf / rang / Cav defense 8-9

Strategic Inf / rang / Cav attack 8-10

 

Whether you choose to end up at 7,8, or 9 (or even 10) is up to you and your decisions of the incremental benefits of the additional troop health and defense. The same considerations go into trap research. The benefits get larger as you get closer to 9-10, but cost a lot more, and put on a lot more power. I tend to find that the best benefit / cost ratio is balanced at around level 8 for most of these combat / trap researches, which means going to sh19 and academy 19 to unlock troop health 7&8 and troop defense 7&8 (and that means going from the sh15-18 bracket to the sh19-21 bracket in KvK scoring terms).

Other than Combat / Trap research, what other research should I do?

 

Economics: if your alliance hyperfarms, then research only the resource you need to produce, eg ore production if you are hypering ore. If you are not hyper farming one resource on your main account, then resource production is ‘wasted’ in a turtle. It is more efficient in power terms to do resource production in a separate farm account. When I say more efficient, I mean it adds less unnecessary power. Most people still do construction research, and at least some degree of march speed research, although it is not absolutely necessary in a turtle that takes hits.

 

Restorative research: Warning, almost all the payoff is in level 9 and 10. There is NO point in doing these to only get them to 5-8. For a turtle that is not going to mass-produce troops, then training resource reduction is not worth the time, silver and resources. Likewise, trap salvaging is not really worth it overall. Some people do tier 2 trap salvaging to level 9 or 10. Tier 3 trap salvaging is not worth the resources that go into it. If you get to trap defense 8-9 and hero trap defense 8-9, and have more than 1M troops, you almost never lose a Tier 3 trap during a solo attack.

 

Crafting research – Some people like to unlock up to core mastery level 4, as it allows you to craft very capable temporary hero gear whilst at hero level 40-49, that can be as good as some of the best level 50 permanent hero gear.   The power increase is not all that high if you just stick to the minimum to unlock Core Mastery 4, i.e. the central part of the tree.  It is not recommended to try and fill out the side researches that helps refinement.  Level 5 and 6 core mastery are not worth it for a turtle, nor are any of the 4th gem slots, each of which take 600-1000 days.  Cores are not needed to be an effective turtle if you are able to craft good hero gear, but can be useful if you want to be as effective as possible whilst waiting to complete hero level 50.

 

March tree research – Complete waste of money for turtle. All payoff in level 9-10, and level 9s all are bigger in terms of time to complete than the researches for Tier 4 troops and traps. Do not waste your time, silver and speedups.

Defense-Tree

Defense tree research – UPDATE April 28th, 2015 – A new defense tree has been released, as seen at right.  The first part includes individual troop defense, trap defense, and overall troop defense.  At release, the requirements to start the tree were Academy level 21, T4 troops and T4 traps.  This was reduced to Academy level 21, T3 troops and T3 traps.  As such, it remains out of reach for the vast majority of turtles who do not have Academy level 21 (requires ~600k gold to complete the 3 money buildings first).  The screenshot at right is from the bottom of the march tree, promising a hospital capacity increase, in addition to more Troop Health.  So far, analysis suggests that this will not be useful for solo march turtles, as it will put on too much power.  The payoff from Troop Defense is 131% at level 10, the same as for the Troop Defense in the Combat tree.  However the power increase to get that 131% troop defense bonus looks like it will be in the order of 15-20M power, once you have completed all the other 4 researches to allow Troop Defense Level 10.  So, to get to the bottom of hospital capacity increase will likely be at least 40-50M power. Will update this post once we know more.

 

SUMMARY

In this article we have covered a number of big decisions, mostly around how big you are going to get (sh18 vs sh20-21), briefly discussed whether to max strategic or regular troop research, and whether it is worth undertaking the level 8,9,10 researches. These are all very difficult decisions, knowing full well that MZ encourages you to go to 21, to max your research to level 10 and to train both regular and strategic troops, as well as siege troops.

 

“The essence of strategy is choosing what not to do.” – Michael Porter

 

So, coming back to the starting point of this article, if you want to build an effective turtle, you need to make some conscious, deliberate decisions about what you are not going to do. You need to decide whether you are going to follow MZ’s well laid build path to level 21, or decide to stop early at sh18-19. You need to decide whether to push all your combat researches to level 9-10 or settle for level 7-8. You need to decide whether to do regular troops only, strategic troops only, or a mix of both.

Our suggestion is to make a decision on which of regular or strat troops is going to be your primary troop type, get to sh18, get your core regular combat researches to level 8, and stop there for a bit and see how you go.

It is a tough decision between sh18 and sh19, with the main determinant of that decision being whether you want to unlock academy 19, which unlocks level 7 and 8 troop health and troop defense. But only you can make these decisions for your account. Don’t rush them. You can’t go back, you can’t deconstruct research from level 9 to level 8, and life as an sh18 can be a lot of fun, irrespective of whether you have regular or strat troops.

The next part of this series will discuss decisions around urban buildings and then hospitals / villas / barracks before progressing on to troops…….

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  1. Looking at converting a sh14 farm account to a trap. Would like to leave it at sh14 so hero can’t be killed. Do I need to go to sh18 per your guides or can I use them for an sh 14 trap?

    Mijisdad

  2. Profile photo of gowanus

    I HAVE TWO ACCOUNTS ONE, AT 25 MILLION PWR WITH A LVL 49 HERO ,HYPER FARMING ORE AND SILVER WITH ABOUT 30000 TROOPS AND 1000 TRAPS,SH AT LVL 19.
    THE OTHER IS ALSO A HYPER FARM OF SILVER AND STONE WITH 2.5 MIL PWR AND A HERO AT LVL 44 WITH NO TRAPS AND 514 TROOPS.THE SH IS AT LVL 12.

    WHAT ARE YOUR SUGGESTIONS FOR A TURTLE ACCOUNT FOR EITHER OF THESE.
    THANK YOU

  3. Love the article and trying to build, but just a question..
    I was just hit in a kvk, and lost all 75000 traps. Obviously no troops. What have I done wrong?
    I have followed all the above for a SH18 variant 1 and completed the training. I only have 200k troops, would that make a difference??
    Thanks

  4. I am interested in converting to a trap account. I can you share some advise? First and most important I am not a money player, but here is where I stand. Right now I am 3 builds away from unlocking my lvl 21 academy (lvl 18 altar & jail and lvl 19 hall of war) . In research maxed in economic, combat, wall trap and both strategic wall/combat.

    • Profile photo of silverhair

      I can share parts 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11, and soon part 12 of this guide. Hall of War, altar and prison are mostly useless for turtles, as you will read about in part 3 of this guide. The link for part 3 is at the bottom of this guide.

  5. After you’ve saved all your empire quests, how can you pick and choose which to cash when they only offer you 5 at a time? Especially when the 5 that are available to collect are have poor Hero XP to power ratio

    • Profile photo of silverhair

      There is no way to control which ones you can collect if MZ offer you the 5 most recent ones as having poor Hero XP to power ratio. You can’t go through a full list and pick and choose, you have to make a decision on the 5 in front of you. If they are all poor, you either decide to leave them and wait for better ones, or you decide to clear a few to see if you can get some better ones, or you decide to leave all of them alone and never touch another empire quest. Your decision.

  6. If the goal of a turtle account is to be effective at taking hits (ie defending) and not giving hits (ie attacking) why is there such a focus on “attack” research?

    • Profile photo of silverhair

      Because even on defense, troop attack is around 2-3 times as valuable as troop health and troop defense. See part 11 for evidence for that statement. Having said that, I recommend reading parts 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 before you get to part 11.

  7. Ok at sh18 and have saved most of my quests so how do I select what empire quests I want to complete?

  8. And one more thing I like to ask
    Which gears are good, like defense gears are more important or health, attack debuff and health debuff, There’s any need of defense debuff, I read it that if we having more troops then better to have defense boost more then health and health debuf and attack debuf are more useful then defense debuf,
    In Bargain gears m just looking for Troops defense and trap attack, and in accessories m going with torch having health and trap attack

  9. Hi Silver, I always read your articles, they are big help to me, first of all thanx a Ton for that
    Ok, now about my problem, I read all articles as I said but I missed this one and I went for strategic troops, but the best part I didn’t research combat much ,Just unlocked troops for strategic research.
    Now my.power is 31million, with individual troops attack is 9th level and defense 8th level health is 7 and defense 7 , I will go for 8level in both, it will add approx 700k power
    M having 8million strategic t1s as you explained in your article through tests,
    And I also saw your last article in which player is having more then 8million t1s and it’s working fine, So first please tell me how many more t1s I can train after this 8millions? , and which level is good in research for health and defense?I am not going ahead of 8th level hero is still at 48 level and it will add 2million more power getting to 50level hero
    And buildings will add 2million more power that I know, Please read this note and help me to get the best , traps attack is 9 in both combat and strategic, you know that it needs all level in combat wall to unlock in strategic
    Hope I will get best from you, thanx a ton ones again and how much power I must have to get good solo attacks?
    Waiting for your reply

    • Profile photo of silverhair

      The most important thing for you is to try and get to hero level 50. Your research is very good. You will probably need to get strategic troop health and strategic troop defence level 8 researches done. I have tested up to 12M T1 with no evidence of NERF, but by then you will be over 40M power, so it is not really necessary. Read part 10 on combat boosts for the first part of the discussion on how to think about hero gear. Then Part 11 (being written now) looking more at hero gear.

      • Thanx a lot for your reply, yes Now m just working on hero level 50, it will add 1million power that I know, now also building up hospitals because attackers are becoming powerful with new defense researches and gears, with hero level 50 and hospitals I will reach to 36million plus with having 8 million t1s yet, and yes my strategic defense and health is already 8 level.

  10. MoreMoneyMorePowerNoBrains

    Why are we researching Trap Defense? Ive been told throughout An dozen kingdoms that effects damage from an Cities Traps on your troops when you are Attacking. Is that wrong? Does Trap Defense research lower how many of your Traps die when defending?

    • Yes, trap defense lowers number of traps damaged when defending. It is most important when your traps are the same tier or lower when compared to your troops. So if you are a pure T3 turtle with T3 traps and T3 troops, then trap defense is important. If you have T1-2 troops and T3 traps, then trap defense is pretty much wasted research. Will be discussed in more detail in part 9 of series in next couple of days.

  11. I’m still a bit up in the air about hero research. If I stop at sh18 and decide not to do the next level of Troop Strength, is it with worth the power to research my hero up to Monster Level 3? I realize that I need Hero Level 50 and it would be much easier with all the research, but I could save a ton of power

    • Monster mastery research is not listed in this piece on research necessary for a turtle. It may be useful if you want to buff trap attack and trap defense, but monster research in and of itself is not critical to fighting. It certainly help you get materials, but it is not necessary for fighting.

  12. I just started building a trap account and I’m wondering the setup in the beginning……How many Villas, Barracks, Hospitals for now! I want to be able to obviously train the most troops the fastest! Any Guidance would be MORE THAN APPRECIATED!!!!!!

  13. My understanding is that NERF didn’t apply if you haven’t unlocked the next tier of troops. Is that true? How would that change or turtle strategy?

    • I have not tested it. I have seen evidence for an against the idea that sh14 accounts don’t have mass armies of T2 NERFed.

      I reserve judgement until I have tested it myself or been provided with well-done research. I don’t think it materially affects solo March turtle design, because 10M T2 is 80M troop power. No-one should be hitting anything as a solo attack with 80M power. It may well be relevant for those looking to create a rally trap account, but not for the solo March turtle.

  14. Thursday first kvk ke! Can’t wait!

  15. Thanks that’s was great to read. When the part three will be available ?

  16. Another source that you guys can have a good read on trap account: http://www.gameofwarguru.net/2015/perfecting-traps
    Same goal, same approach.

  17. As a trap, for gear do you think it’s better to focus on attack or health or a good balance of both?

    • If you can craft gear that has overall troop attack (not individual troop attack), then do it. But he aware that all pieces with troop attack require special event materials.

      If you can’t craft gear with overall troop attack, then focus on troop health.

      But please check out the defense and bargain gear tabs at our gear lists. Suggest you select 10 or 20 so you can see a full list of options of great turtle gear to craft.

      http://www.insidegameofwar.com/best-combat-gear/

  18. Excellent Advice as usual silver

  19. Hi silverhair, thanks for write this article. Makes me more understand, since i just build my account as defends type, but no guide and just do trial and error.
    Regarding Empire Quest Reward, i collecting after my gymnos lv 21, and I use Hero Exp Boost.. Dont know its true or not, but result i got more Hero Exp.
    Need your info, which gear should i wear for this type? Defend or Health and how bout gems? Which gems prefer for this turtle build?

  20. I love this series; so informative. Thank you!

  21. Profile photo of chris evans

    great guide lines here hello im ready to build traps im going for a turtle account can you tell me what traps i should be doing please

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    Hello!
    Great articles thanks! Hope this isn’t a dup as I did leave a prior comment, but do not see it.
    My question> I’m at SH 6 currently and will be utilizing this moving forward. So when you say not to complete quests so as to not accumulate unnecessary Power, do you mean simply not “Collecting” on a completed task? Just let it sit in Empire completed section until absolutely needed?
    Side note: I think it’s nuts the amount of spending required to get to SH 20-21. An investment, that’s for sure.

    • Yes exactly, just avoid completing/collecting the Empire quests. Daily quests, alliance quests and VIP quests are different, in that they give hero XP without adding power.

  23. Nice article. Helpful as I’m SH 6 now and plan to utilize this as much as possible moving forward. Question >> when you say holding off on completing quests until SH17-19, do you mean clicking the “collect” on the completed quest? Sorry to be so technical, but I’d rathe not find out the hard way! Thanks!

  24. When are you doing part three of the Turtle?

    • Profile photo of silverhair

      Doing it now. Should be uploaded within 24 hours. Sorry, I ended up reframing it quite differently compared to my first draft. I hope it will be even more useful in its revised version.

  25. Great article silverhair. One thing I’d add to the final paragraph when making the decision between going from Sh 18 to 19 is you’ll want to take into account the point brackets. Going into the 19-21 point bracket will be much harder to get a top place as you’ll now be competing with all the bigs and their t4.

    Just another thing to consider (hopefully I didn’t spoil a future article).

    • Profile photo of silverhair

      Thanks DRetz. You are absolutely correct, that is the main consideration, KvK points brackets, both from research / training, as well as Kill Event KvK brackets. I’ve seen quite a few instances where turtles at sh19-21 have got top place in Kill Events, beating all the T4 players, even if they can’t really do so in the research / training events. Definitely best to stop and pause at 18 and really getting to know your account inside out before moving on to 19 or 20. Thanks, will try and update the article to reflect the KvK points brackets consideration.

  26. I am trying to see how to get 600k beds at level 18 are there things that increase the bed rate faster

    • There’s no research to increase bed size. At sh 18 you need all but one building (probably watchtower) to be level 18 hospitals.

      I dont think that would be the best strategy. You would need to have finished creating troops and ensure you won’t need to in the future

      • Profile photo of silverhair

        It is possible with 24 level 18 hospitals of 25000 capacity each. That leaves 1 available slot for an urban building, whether that is a villa or barracks, or a watchtower / embassy / hall of war etc. There will be alot more discussion of hospital capacity in part 4 of this guide, coming in a few days time.

  27. Gran trabajo con estos artículos Peloplata. Muy bien explicados y con todos los detalles. Ideal para dummies y no tan dummies. Espero con impaciencia el próximo. Muchas gracias!

    Great job with these items Silverhair. Very well explained and all the details. Ideal for dummies and not as dummies. I look forward to the next. Thank you very much!

  28. Do you think its possible to change you accounts course? I am at sh 20 and 30 m power and I am starting to realize that t4 is just ridiculous. I already have a lot of the recommended research, do you think its possible to change course to a turtle?

  29. Profile photo of orion6

    Great article ! You´re the best

  30. Profile photo of Patar218

    Another great article love all the time and effort you all put into this site. My only objection to this article would be that unlocking at least core lvl 1 is beneficial for a turtle under hero lvl 50 because you can embed and recycle gems in that gear instead of wasting materials and gems making regular combat gear that will become obsolete once you are able to make relic gear.

    • Profile photo of silverhair

      Thanks Patar, this article series is alot of fun to write. If you are able to find a way to reliably use core and relic gear in a turtle taking solo hits, then that is fantastic. My experience is that I am hopeless at equipping relics or cores fast enough when a march comes in. My preferred style is as little decision making required as possible at the time of battle. Put my hero gear on, warpaint on, and go kill some troops. And part of the reason I prefer permanent gear on a turtle is that as an attacker, when I see core or relics equipped on a hero, even if it is white or green, I simply move on to easier targets. Although I will bookmark them and check that spot in an hour later to see if they are still there with their relics / cores expired and several empty equipment spots. Then I will nail them.

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